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am Freitag, 7. August 2009 um 10:27
 

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otherwise:

living in the area of the target language plus
30-40 hrs per level private teaching plus 60-80 hrs self studies plus hard work.

In normal settings, 4 lessons per day are the limit for understanding
where did you notice attitude, and where i am demanding? i am just representing the problems and doubt's!! come on it's not fair again. you are getting me somewhere wrong. i felt very bad when i never did that and got charged for that...anyway Thank you. i will work hard...!
am Donnerstag, 24. September 2009 um 00:28
 

internship and residency in medicine from germany

HI There
i read all the posts above and found them quite useful.
I'm also a final year medical student who wants to follow the same course
i.e. i also want to do residency in medicine from germany and for that i ll
prefer to do paid internship. (i ll not work unpaid but i can compromise
being underpaid).
i ll get enrolled in goethe institute to learn german as i have six months
before i m a graduate. i ll get a degree from my institute after final year
exams.
i want to ask that all my diplomas papers etc are in english do i have to
translate them to german before submitting them to respective universities?
??
i have short listed heidelberg and gottingen for internship and residency in
medicine, do tell me if my selection would be wise enough??
i would request Mr Anand and the nice guy who helped mr. anand through
out to please assist me too. Thanks in advance
am Donnerstag, 24. September 2009 um 07:19
geändert am 24.09.2009 07:20:30
 

Good start

with the enrollment at Goethe institut. They can tell you, whether you habe the konwledge of level B2. Try to post here in German - its just a test for you.

Second: you can find the whole process of getting the german licence at the homepage of the bundesärztekammer. Surely you need a German translation.

3rd: Heidelberg and Göttingen might be okay, but they are rather competetive.
am Donnerstag, 24. September 2009 um 16:25
geändert am 24.09.2009 16:26:25
 

good chance if well prepared

If you get good fluency in spoken German and pass the language test with appropriate mark then I see no problems for you to get started here. Get the best possible translations for your documents of medical diploma (seal of officially recognised translator will be helpful. I would recommend a translator in Germany or of the Goethe Institute - best style of German transcription guaranteed).
I must warn you a bit about your Internal Medicine plans. Be prepared to do A LOT of paperwork and computerwork here, not much time for patient contact. Dayly routine of dictating 5 discharge letters of 2-4 pages will be on your list as a junior. Real hands on training starts usually after 3-4 years.
Those big University Hospitals (Heidelberg, Göttingen, you name them...) should only be chosen if you are up for a career in theoretical medical science and university medicine. NOBODY there will be interested to teach you practical skills for beginners. You will have to be a very tough personality being prepared to kick and be kicked. This makes sense only if you already decided on a certain future medical subspecialty (Gastro, Nephro, Kardio, Hematology etc.). You will not learn the basic general medicine there if anything practical at all.
If you are interested in a good general training in Internal Medicine first then you should go for non-university teaching hospitals. If so, I might check for some (rare) places where newcomers are appreciated and even systematically trained, and give you advice then.
If training quality doesn´t matter to you in the beginning (only want to get job in Germany) then choose any teaching hospital - they all need cheap manpower.
DS
am Mittwoch, 30. September 2009 um 10:00
 

Thanks

If you get good fluency in spoken German and pass the language test with
appropriate mark then I see no problems for you to get started here. Get
the best possible translations for your documents of medical diploma (seal of
officially recognised translator will be helpful. I would recommend a
translator in Germany or of the Goethe Institute - best style of German
transcription guaranteed).
I must warn you a bit about your Internal Medicine plans. Be prepared to do
A LOT of paperwork and computerwork here, not much time for patient
contact. Dayly routine of dictating 5 discharge letters of 2-4 pages will be on
your list as a junior. Real hands on training starts usually after 3-4 years.
Those big University Hospitals (Heidelberg, Göttingen, you name them...)
should only be chosen if you are up for a career in theoretical medical
science and university medicine. NOBODY there will be interested to teach
you practical skills for beginners. You will have to be a very tough personality
being prepared to kick and be kicked. This makes sense only if you already
decided on a certain future medical subspecialty (Gastro, Nephro, Kardio,
Hematology etc.). You will not learn the basic general medicine there if
anything practical at all.
If you are interested in a good general training in Internal Medicine first then
you should go for non-university teaching hospitals. If so, I might check for
some (rare) places where newcomers are appreciated and even
systematically trained, and give you advice then.
If training quality doesn´t matter to you in the beginning (only want to get
job in Germany) then choose any teaching hospital - they all need cheap
manpower.
DS
Thanks a lot you guys for your precious advice. I had no idea that big
University Hospitals wont allow hands on training during Practisches Jahr. I
want to learn practical skills as much as i could and quality training does
matter a lot to me. I would appreciate if you could guide me to the places
where new comers are systemically trained. If you have time and if you wont
mind You could directly send me the required info at
asharies_85@hotmail.com

Well, as for being tough enough to work there, i'm prepared to kick and be
kicked.
Your sincere effort are highly appreciated.
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